Comments on: Is Google Wave going to help your team? http://blog.zenbe.com/2009/10/06/is-google-wave-going-to-help-your-team/ How to make the most of Zenbe Lists, Shareflow, and Blacktop. Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:13:58 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ilya http://blog.zenbe.com/2009/10/06/is-google-wave-going-to-help-your-team/comment-page-1/#comment-905 Ilya Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:45:46 +0000 http://blog.zenbe.com/?p=686#comment-905 @ Shareflow Team My colleagues were unable to use Shareflow. They are constantly confused and generally forget about the fact that there needs to verify the updates in the flows. I constantly had to help them how and what to do. Three days ago we received an invitation to Google Wave. Understand what and how it was much easier. My colleagues have started to use Google Wave simply and quickly. No any confusion anymore. We immediately began to chat and work. I personally like the concept and interface of the Shareflow. But having tried Google Wave I want to report that it is very convenient and powerful tool. It is more convenient than Shareflow even for those purposes for which created Shareflow. @ Shareflow Team

My colleagues were unable to use Shareflow. They are constantly confused and generally forget about the fact that there needs to verify the updates in the flows. I constantly had to help them how and what to do.

Three days ago we received an invitation to Google Wave. Understand what and how it was much easier. My colleagues have started to use Google Wave simply and quickly. No any confusion anymore. We immediately began to chat and work.

I personally like the concept and interface of the Shareflow. But having tried Google Wave I want to report that it is very convenient and powerful tool. It is more convenient than Shareflow even for those purposes for which created Shareflow.

]]> By: will bailey http://blog.zenbe.com/2009/10/06/is-google-wave-going-to-help-your-team/comment-page-1/#comment-903 will bailey Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:49:22 +0000 http://blog.zenbe.com/?p=686#comment-903 @Ilya We're working on several of the features you listed, but Shareflow is a tool that evolved out of real world use cases. Rather than theorizing about what users could do with Shareflow we've tried to be disciplined and wait to see what they are doing with Shareflow. We then implement the features that make sense for the most users. As a small team, this helps us stay focused and avoid feature bloat. @Maxx I presume you aren't a big fan of Apple... http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads We don't intend to trash talk Google. We do want to get the word out that there are alternatives. @Ilya
We’re working on several of the features you listed, but Shareflow is a tool that evolved out of real world use cases. Rather than theorizing about what users could do with Shareflow we’ve tried to be disciplined and wait to see what they are doing with Shareflow. We then implement the features that make sense for the most users. As a small team, this helps us stay focused and avoid feature bloat.

@Maxx I presume you aren’t a big fan of Apple…
http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads
We don’t intend to trash talk Google. We do want to get the word out that there are alternatives.

]]> By: Maxx http://blog.zenbe.com/2009/10/06/is-google-wave-going-to-help-your-team/comment-page-1/#comment-901 Maxx Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:19:39 +0000 http://blog.zenbe.com/?p=686#comment-901 Trash-talking the competitions products is not cool. you may be right, but it's still not cool... Trash-talking the competitions products is not cool. you may be right, but it’s still not cool…

]]> By: Ilya http://blog.zenbe.com/2009/10/06/is-google-wave-going-to-help-your-team/comment-page-1/#comment-900 Ilya Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:07:24 +0000 http://blog.zenbe.com/?p=686#comment-900 And if it is possible to delete a message or comment, then why is not possible to edit it? But again. The biggest problem so far - this is notification of new messages and highlighting of unread. And if it is possible to delete a message or comment, then why is not possible to edit it?

But again. The biggest problem so far – this is notification of new messages and highlighting of unread.

]]> By: Ilya http://blog.zenbe.com/2009/10/06/is-google-wave-going-to-help-your-team/comment-page-1/#comment-899 Ilya Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:10:25 +0000 http://blog.zenbe.com/?p=686#comment-899 Shareflow is expensive. Free plan is very very limited and not practical. Shareflow do not have a normal notification of new messages and not highlights new unread messages and comments. The search does not highlights the searched word or phrase. Daily digest sends the update is not for the last day, but for its first part, while nothing happened. Has no text formatting. So far Shareflow inconvenient, though very interesting and feel the potential. I repeat that now it is not convenient. Shareflow is expensive. Free plan is very very limited and not practical.
Shareflow do not have a normal notification of new messages and not highlights new unread messages and comments. The search does not highlights the searched word or phrase. Daily digest sends the update is not for the last day, but for its first part, while nothing happened.
Has no text formatting.
So far Shareflow inconvenient, though very interesting and feel the potential. I repeat that now it is not convenient.

]]> By: Matt http://blog.zenbe.com/2009/10/06/is-google-wave-going-to-help-your-team/comment-page-1/#comment-898 Matt Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:15:56 +0000 http://blog.zenbe.com/?p=686#comment-898 Good points about Wave, especially the one about everyone talking at once. Nevertheless, Wave will not get anything done for anyone until it's opened up to the public. This exclusiveness right now is ridiculous. Good points about Wave, especially the one about everyone talking at once.

Nevertheless, Wave will not get anything done for anyone until it’s opened up to the public. This exclusiveness right now is ridiculous.

]]> By: Peter Stern http://blog.zenbe.com/2009/10/06/is-google-wave-going-to-help-your-team/comment-page-1/#comment-897 Peter Stern Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:37:15 +0000 http://blog.zenbe.com/?p=686#comment-897 Weave, I mean Wave is NOT Free. No online service is free: people invest time in these things, in the hope that they will be enabled to accomplish more with their time later. GBs are cheap, time is expensive. Shareflow is all about SAVING you time. Wave is more about SPENDING your time. Weave, I mean Wave is NOT Free.

No online service is free: people invest time in these things, in the hope that they will be enabled to accomplish more with their time later. GBs are cheap, time is expensive.

Shareflow is all about SAVING you time. Wave is more about SPENDING your time.

]]> By: Kio http://blog.zenbe.com/2009/10/06/is-google-wave-going-to-help-your-team/comment-page-1/#comment-894 Kio Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:59:17 +0000 http://blog.zenbe.com/?p=686#comment-894 - rhetorics. weave - It's free, it has unlimited space it's fully customizable google api means it will take all variety of forms and implementations play with it or work with it depends on you, it always does shareflow - 25Mb sign up after sign up even if you already have signed up for free/paid zenbe account paid for space, nowadays when everything counts in Gb's and yes - "problem with e-mail" - no e-mail - no problem plus forget about all the terrific features you got used to on your zenbe mail Did they steel smth from you or their price was too low? - rhetorics.

weave – It’s free,
it has unlimited space
it’s fully customizable
google api means it will take all variety of forms and implementations
play with it or work with it depends on you, it always does

shareflow – 25Mb
sign up after sign up even if you already have signed up for free/paid zenbe account
paid for space, nowadays when everything counts in Gb’s
and yes – “problem with e-mail” – no e-mail – no problem
plus forget about all the terrific features you got used to on your zenbe mail

Did they steel smth from you or their price was too low?

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